{"id":14150,"date":"2022-12-27T21:51:32","date_gmt":"2022-12-28T02:51:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/?p=14150"},"modified":"2022-12-27T21:51:32","modified_gmt":"2022-12-28T02:51:32","slug":"she-said-exclusive-interview-with-actors-patricia-clarkson-and-andre-braugher","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/?p=14150","title":{"rendered":"She Said : Exclusive Interview with Actors Patricia Clarkson and Andre Braugher\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Synopsis<\/strong> :\u00a0Two-time Academy Award\u00ae nominee Carey Mulligan (Promising Young Woman, An Education) and Zoe Kazan (The Plot Against America limited series, The Big Sick) star as New York Times reporters Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor, who together broke one of the most important stories in a generation&#8211;a story that helped propel the #Metoo movement, shattered decades of silence around the subject of sexual assault in Hollywood and altered American culture forever.<\/p>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Rating<\/strong>:\u00a0R (Language|Descriptions of Sexual Assault)<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Genre<\/strong>:\u00a0Drama<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Original Language<\/strong>:English<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Director<\/strong>: Maria Schrader<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Producer<\/strong>:Dede Gardner, Jeremy Kleiner<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Writer<\/strong>: Rebecca Lenkiewicz<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Release Date (Theaters)<\/strong>:\u00a0<time datetime=\"Nov 18, 2022\">Nov 18, 2022<\/time> \u00a0Wide<\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Runtime<\/strong>:\u00a0<time datetime=\"P2h 9mM\">2h 9m<\/time><\/div>\n<div class=\"meta-label subtle\" data-qa=\"movie-info-item-label\"><strong>Distributor<\/strong>:\u00a0Universal Pictures<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><strong>Exclusive Interview with actors Patricia Clarkson and Andre Braugher\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Even though this is still ongoing litigation, how important is it for the movie to be seen right now, five years after it all exploded in the United States?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PC: It\u2019s better late than never. And we\u2019re still battling certain issues in our industry and in this world. But it\u2019s such a powerful moment, and movie, and I think it\u2019s a welcome film right now to our world.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>AB: You know that the five years is just the result of what it takes to get a film made, interns of the article being written, they had the book following it up, then the rights to the book, the screenwriter, the director, the casting \u2014 all that is a huge process. It doesn\u2019t sound strange to me that a film of this quality would come along five years after the event. That\u2019s just the time necessary to bring things to fruition.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: In terms of being a character, how would you take into consideration the duty of the journalist versus informing the public? <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>AB: An organization as large as the <i>New York Times<\/i> has to be responsible and circumspect about making sure that all the t\u2019s are crossed and the i\u2019s are dotted. The larger the organization, the more responsible they have to be to ensure that the story is credible and backed up, and documented.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In the film, one of the things that Rebecca [Corbett] is always emphasizing is the need for documentation. I think that documentation lends immense credibility to this story. Whereas if this was simply an accusation about Harvey Weinstein in a hotel room, I think it would have fallen flat when poised against his immense power, his wealth, and his influence.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>But with that kind of documentation, and with the meticulous research that the journalists have engaged in, with the courageous testimony of the witnesses and the survivors, this story has been made so much more powerful, so much more impactful and consequently, so much easier for people to understand and support \u2014 men and women around the globe.<\/p>\n<p>PC: It\u2019s remarkable to have Dean [Baquet] and Rebecca, these titans, these towering figures, but they became human. They really had intuition, their intelligence, their tenacity to take this story the whole way through, to never give up. And to keep these two great women, Jodi [Kantor] and Megan [Twohey], to believe in them all the way through. It\u2019s such a beautiful testament to the power of journalism.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: As actors, what was the moment you really noticed that something had shifted in the film industry since the publication of the article and reportage of the trials of Weinstein? Did you really notice that something has changed, the situation would have been completely different five years ago?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>AB: Well, the first thing that I noticed [was] little by little, there were more women on the set and how many more women there are in positions of greater responsibility and power. I noticed the necessity of having important training before we began to work on set; how many safeguards there are in terms of behavior, and the ability to report behavior on the set; how seriously the entire subject of harassment is taken today, as opposed to even five years ago.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s changed a lot. It\u2019s really provided a very important foundation for justice, equity, inclusion, safety, and respect in the workplace. It\u2019s a much better situation than it was even five years ago, and boy, it\u2019s very different than when I came into the business forty years ago.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>PC: It\u2019s lightyears from when I started in 1985. But there has been a seismic shift in the last five years, because when you bring down a towering monster \u2014 when you start at the top and bring him down \u2014 things have changed. Women have risen. Slowly but surely, we are rising in this industry, to major positions of power \u2014 not just positions of power, major positions of power. And we are rising. It\u2019s that simple.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-14151\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-1024x728.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"696\" height=\"495\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-1024x728.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-300x213.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-768x546.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-696x495.jpg 696w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-1068x760.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-591x420.jpg 591w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2-100x70.jpg 100w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said2.jpg 1122w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: There\u2019s not one concrete moment that you realized, \u201cOkay, something is different now.\u201d<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PC: I don\u2019t know that it\u2019s something \u201cconcrete\u201d, I just know that there are many, many more women involved in our industry than ever and ever before, and that struck me. That was a slower moving train, and now it\u2019s a bullet train.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t know if there\u2019s one moment I woke up, or one moment on a set. But I think it\u2019s just slowly I started to realize it. I\u2019d just done two big projects back-to-back and both sets had so many women. I had two female directors. I had a female DP. As with this film: so many women that worked on this film.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>And there is safety in numbers.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Patricia, you decided not to meet with Rebecca Corbett before filming. Can you talk about that? And what are the challenges in portraying an actual person that is also very much a heroic role?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PC: Well, I purposely did not meet with Rebecca because I knew of her before I took this part, long before this story. I knew she was this remarkable human being and quite heroic, and I didn\u2019t want to mimic her or pretend to be her, out of respect for her. I wanted to call on the best parts of me, reach for my higher angels, to take on this remarkable human being. And also to keep her a human being, because there\u2019s such reverence for her, in my own life and in many others.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I spoke to many people about her, several of her colleagues, and I\u2019d seen her in some interviews. So I had to remember she is a working woman. She is whole. So I thought the best ode to Rebecca was to keep her human. But of course, her overwhelming intelligence, intuition , gracefulness, gift of words [eloquence?] \u2014 she really knows when to hold \u2018em and when to fold \u2018em. It\u2019s remarkable gift. I think she was probably just born with it.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s one of the highlights of my career to play such a remarkable human being.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Were there any conflicts within her that you felt as an actor that you could work with in portraying her?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PC: Oh yes, she\u2019s a human being. She is a woman who struggles like we all do at moments, she\u2019s a woman who [makes] sacrifices. I think she also had to at times have doubts, like, can this story survive? I think she also had to at times be the objective [one] and the naysayer like \u201cNo, that\u2019s not going to work\u201d, you have to have this, you have to have that. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>I had the great moment in my life to meet her recently \u2014 I finally met her. I\u2019m so glad I did not meet her before I played her. Because she really is \u2014 the way people speak to her and look at her, the way Megan and Jodi \u2014 she is their North Star. But she is human, and I did get to really speak with her. And I actually touched her. So it was an exciting night I had. A very exciting night.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-large wp-image-14152\" src=\"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-1024x732.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"696\" height=\"498\" srcset=\"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-1024x732.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-300x215.jpg 300w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-768x549.jpg 768w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-696x498.jpg 696w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-1068x764.jpg 1068w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3-587x420.jpg 587w, https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/12\/She-Said3.jpg 1172w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 696px) 100vw, 696px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: They started working on this story in 2016. Why do you think Weinstein got away with what he did for so long in an industry that \u2014 at least from the outside \u2014 is perceived to be so progressive and liberal?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>AB: I don\u2019t know when they began working on the story because that\u2019s way above my pay grade. But I will say it takes a long time to bring down a concerted ring of enablers because it\u2019s so difficult to find witnesses and to find survivors who are willing to testify because they have been punished. They have been punished in the marketplace, their careers have been destroyed. These are all evidenced in the film, and many characters in the film testify how difficult it is to bring down.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>But power, prestige and influence still hold sway wherever you go in the world. In telling the truth, the truth is often discounted and ignored. There\u2019s nothing odd about an army of enablers and a culture of silence keeping the story under wraps for decades.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>PC: I think sadly, also, having dealt with Harvey on several occasions, I guess I thought the worst he was was just a big angry bully. The fact that he was this monumental abuser and deeply flawed and odious human being \u2014 I think there were people who knew what he was doing and they were complicit, and they have their own demons and devils to work with. Many of them fell with him, thank God. But I think for the most part with many of us, we just thought he was just this big bully, and sadly, we didn\u2019t know the lives that he was destroying.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Patricia, you said the situation is lightyears from when you started. Can you expand a little on what it was like for you when you started?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PC: I look back and I have to almost laugh at it, because I realize now, there were absolutely no boundaries for men in this industry. It was a \u2014 we were fair game. Men were allowed to invite us to their hotel rooms, their apartments, to take us on trips, to have us run lines in their hotel rooms. You can\u2019t imagine the amount of lack of boundaries that existed. And there was nowhere to go because it was all men. It was all men in power. And they were all complicit.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Now I\u2019m not saying they were all bad people. Not every single man I worked with in this industry. There were some incredibly beautiful and honorable men I worked with. But it was a difficult situation to be a young actress in this industry when I first started out. I am so thankful that I was never deeply harmed, that I had enough self-respect \u2014thank you, Mom and Dad. I had enough value to stand all of that borderline abuse and kindof come out on top, so to speak.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>But I\u2019m thankful now for the young actresses in this industry that will never suffer that \u2014 or hopefully, to a lesser degree. Because silence is no longer golden. You cannot be comp licit. And people want to speak up now.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Haven\u2019t you noticed that, Andre? People want to actually, \u201cWhat was he saying? What was happening? Are you okay?\u201d Everyone\u2019s always checking in to make sure that people are okay. We never had that in our industry. Never. Never. We have it now.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: The director, Maria Schrader, has been an actress as well. What was it like working with her, and have you worked with her before?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>AB: I don\u2019t have any experience with Maria as an actor. Her [work] is not readily available here in the United States for viewing. As an actor working with her as a director, it\u2019s a wonderful experience. She is a very sensitive interpreter of character, amazingly so, and I felt as though every time I got a direction from her, I said to myself \u201cOh, this is spot on.\u201d Spot on, and unexpected. My esteem for her is immense, and I\u2019m so grateful that we had he to guide us on this film. She has done a marvelous job<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>as a director, she is a real pleasure to work with. I\u2019m only sorry that I never got a chance to see her other [work].<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>PC: She\u2019s a very beautiful person, she\u2019s a beautiful woman inside and out. She really led us with truth and being an actor and a director, they often go hand in hand. Her understanding of character goes without saying, because she\u2019s done it herself many times. So I always felt we were in the best of hands. Every day I always knew she would know where the scene needed to go and where I needed to be, and she was unrelenting. Many directors these days are not \u2014 they just want to get the scene done. We were playing these remarkable, tenacious people, but she is the very definition of tenacious.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: Thank you.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/cinemadailyus.com\/author\/nobuhosokigmail-com\/\">Check out more of Nobuhiro&#8217;s articles<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Here&#8217;s the trailer of the film<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<div class=\"youtube-embed\" data-video_id=\"i5pxUQecM3Y\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"SHE SAID | Official Trailer\" width=\"696\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/i5pxUQecM3Y?feature=oembed&#038;enablejsapi=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Synopsis :\u00a0Two-time Academy Award\u00ae nominee Carey Mulligan (Promising Young Woman, An 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