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\u00a9Photo by Nobuhiro Hosoki<\/p>\n

Ben Stiller recently moderated a panel with William Shatner at New York Comic Con to celebrate the 60th anniversary of Star Trek. During the event, Stiller showcased his passion for the franchise, surprising Shatner with rare memorabilia and engaging in discussions about their shared love for Star Trek.
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Highlights from the Event<\/strong><\/h4>\n

The panel featured several notable moments and discussions.<\/p>\n

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  • Event Date<\/strong> \u2014 The panel took place on October 10, 2026, at New York Comic Con.<\/li>\n
  • Moderator Role<\/strong> \u2014 Ben Stiller, a lifelong Star Trek fan, moderated the conversation.<\/li>\n
  • Memorabilia Surprise<\/strong> \u2014 Stiller surprised Shatner with a Gorn head, a nod to a classic Star Trek episode.<\/li>\n
  • Celebration of Legacy<\/strong> \u2014 Shatner reflected on his iconic role as Captain Kirk and the impact of Star Trek over six decades.<\/li>\n
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    Q&A with William Shatner aka Captain Kirk, moderated by Ben Stiller\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

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    William Shatner<\/strong> : How you doing? Thank you so much. And thank you for being here, actually.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :\u00a0 <\/span>All right. Hello, New York Comic Con. All right. This is crazy. This is such an honor, Bill, to be here with you.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I feel the same way about you, my dear.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Well, II’m basically as old as Star Trek. I am Star Trek years old. I have lived with it my whole life. It has influenced me in such a huge way on every level. Your performance as Captain Kirk, I think it basically kind of permeated my, you know, my deep entire being. So what we’re gonna do here is, show a few clips from some classic Star Trek episodes and movies, and talk a little bit about your experience with the show.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No kidding.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :Yes. How do you feel about that?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Well, let me just ask you, like-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah. Why don’t you ask me?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Star Trek has been a part of your life-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yes<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : For all these years. How did, how has it felt to you over the years?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Good.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :Yeah?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : My kids went through college and-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And university. And bought a house.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :But-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Old car<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : But, I mean, you’ve been through so many stages of Star Trek, the history in terms of-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :The various failures of Star Trek.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes, the failures of Star Trek.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Right, well, it did fail.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :It did fail in the beginning.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah. I mean, it failed the first pilot failed.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yep.<\/p>\n

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    \u00a9Photo by CBS Photo Archive – \u00a9\u00a01968 CBS Photo Archive<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And, and NBC said, “We hate it.” But there was a magic to the idea. So they did something that I’ve never heard of before or since, and I’d be interested in seeing whether your experience is any different.<\/p>\n

    And that is they said, “We’ll give you another amount of money to make another pilot,” because they had made a pilot. “We hate the pilot. We hate the cast. Recast it, rewrite, do something else, and we’ll finance it.”<\/p>\n

    And then that’s when they called me and they said, “We’ve got this piece of film. It’s a pilot. Would you come and see it?” And with the idea of playing the captain on the… So I was in New York and I flew to Los Angeles.<\/p>\n

    I watched this pilot, and I thought, “Wow, that’s magical.” And I saw, you know, what NBC probably saw. And I made a few suggestions. Many other people made other suggestions. We shot another pilot, and it sold, and that became Star Trek.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Whoo. What had you done as an actor? You had a thriving acting career at that point.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right? What did they just offer it to you? At that point, it was an offer, right? They weren’t saying like, “Come in and read this part.” You, they knew who you were.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : So it was in your court, and you what did you think?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, I had been active. I had played Broadway.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I had played on live television. I had made movies. I mean, I was-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You were happening.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, I was a young actor that could have been successful.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :Well, you were successful.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, I didn’t wanna brag.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You were successful, and they said, “Come and basically save this pilot if you… right?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner\u00a0 <\/span><\/strong>: Well, no. They said, “Would you like to play the captain?”<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :And I saw the magic of the film and I said, “I’d love to play it. Let’s, see what you rewrite.” And they rewrote it or<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :… reinvented it and..<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Did you have a meeting with Gene Roddenberry(Writer of \u201cStar Trek\u201d)?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah, I had meetings with everybody.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You know? And I said mostly no.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Which is good.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :And you-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : How would you like a no?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No is a very powerful-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Why not? No.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : <\/span>I just don’t wanna do it. No.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : But they wanted you, and they-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : They wanted you. Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No, I’m playing with you.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Well, you can play with me anytime.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I don’t like being accosted like that, Ben.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. I, here’s the thing, though. I don’t, never wanna accost you. Here’s… Star Trek, of course, the themes of Star Trek are what you-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I’ll talk about<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Talk about, right?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Multifarious.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes. Right. The idea of, I don’t know, acceptance, love, tolerance<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Regret for the passage of time. Something you may have chosen to do-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And you regret having done it.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : So that’s spurious, isn’t it?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Regret. Imagine saying, “Well, I chose to do this. Ooh, I wish I hadn’t done that.”<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I mean-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Well, there are a couple of episodes that are like that in Star Trek.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, exactly. And everybody, whether it’s having a meal, like we’re in a hotel here in New York?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I wish we weren’t in that hotel. I really regret being in that hotel. And, and I, I’ve made sure that the people who put me in the hotel regret that. And last night’s dinner was not very good. So I’m, I’m filled with regret.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But regret is not a good thing.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. So but you’re a very healthy person. I mean, I don’t even know how old you are. But are you an alien?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I am not going to tell you.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Are you? How are you so strong, and virile, and doing this? I mean, this is incredible, right?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Keeps going. And I think currently… And I, I appreciate you doing this right now. You and I hug.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Right? How old are you?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I am 60.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : 60.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : We hug.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, we’re old friends. We don’t know each other very well.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But we go back a bit.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You showed me, we’re sitting around a table an hour or so ago, and he shows me…Tell the story of how you got that picture.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : My dad is Jerry Stiller, an actor. And my dad told me that-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Jerry Stiller got more applause than you.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : That’s true. So Jerry told me that he worked with you back in the day when you were struggling actors, and he had mentioned this show.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Here in New York.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : And he had mentioned this show years ago to me. And, and a friend of mine, Patton Oswalt, who’s a big Star Trek guys, Right? He sent me-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : He didn’t get as much applause as your father.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. He sent me a picture of you and my dad on a show called \u201cLamp Unto My Feet\u201d, a live television show.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner <\/strong>: A religious show.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : In 1962 that had-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner <\/strong>: And we all made our living, all these young actors who are now either passed away orcrotchety and crippled-..and can’t speak. A lot of us made our paid our rent on this religious show that went on every week.<\/p>\n

    So they hired young actors like your dad and me. And we survived while we tried to do other things like get on Broadway or make a movie.<\/p>\n

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    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Well, you definitely, you did it. And then you, and you got on television. You became a television star. And now I want to show a couple of these scenes ’cause we have a short amount of time.<\/p>\n

    And by the way, the thing I wanted to say, though, is the reason why I feel like you’re always, you’re so vital and you’re so in the moment is because you don’t tend… Every time I’ve ever interacted with you don’t tend to want to look back. You want to look forward and be in the moment or look forward. Is that right?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I do that very consciously.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Stay in the moment.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And be aware of the moment.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. And I think that’s why I appreciate you coming here today to talk about some of the stuff from 60 years ago.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, before you do that, listen, there’s a film out, trying to explain why Star Trek has lasted so long. It’s called something or other and it seeks to explain the magic and the mystery of Star Trek.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : And something or other is in theaters right now?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah. It’s debuted here.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s called Star Trek 60 Years…<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Star Trek 60 Years…What?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : The 60-Year Mission. Star Trek: The 60-Year Mission. I’m definitely gonna watch that.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. We’re gonna jump back now in time to one of my favorite episodes, okay? We’re gonna show a clip. It’s called… It’s one of the early episodes from the first season. It’s called \u201cThe Enemy Within.\u201d I think we all know this one. Let’s just take a look at the clip, and then we can talk a little bit about it, okay?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I know that one.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Oh, really?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : That was awesome.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I am the captain. Don’t you understand? I’m captain of this ship. My ship. My ship. It’s mine. You can’t have the matter, Kirk. You know it’s deadly. Then we’ll both die. Please. I don’t want to. Don’t make me. Don’t make me. I wanna go back. Please. I wanna live. You will. Both of us. I wanna live. Wait a minute. Do you understand that I took that prop and I threw it? It’s worth millions.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You’re not-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I can’t believe it.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You’re not even exaggerating.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You’re not exaggerating. Millions. I don’t exaggerate.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. Okay, I’ll tell you, I own that tunic.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : What?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You? I bought that tunic at an auction.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You did?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Did you pay millions?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Not millions, but a lot. It’s definitely valuable.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No kidding.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes. Yeah. It has-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I don’t have a tunic.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Well, I can… I would love to give you the tunic if you want.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But what about the eye makeup?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Incredible.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I don’t like the eye makeup.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : But was that your choice?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Evil Kirk. Evil Kirk AP-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Who chooses to have black makeup like that?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s so cool, though.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The scratch.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. So what’s your memory of shooting that? ‘Cause I’ve done stuff like 40 years ago-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Like I-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I don’t remember.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I tell you what my memory of looking at that is, I\u2019ve recently performing Heavy Metal.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You have a Heavy Metal album coming out.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : So I had a big success in Chicago, and now I’m going on tour, and I got an album coming out in Heavy Metal. All right.<\/p>\n

    But that’s not the point. The point is when doing that scene, okay, the danger, as is the danger doing Heavy Metal, is I wonder if they’re gonna laugh me off the stage.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Really?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Oh, I mean, I wonder. You’re out there. You’re such an extreme-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :Uh, acting moment. Whether it’s heavy metal and I’m thinking, “I hope this goes,” because otherwise they’re gonna say, “What the?”<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : See, but I love that at this point in your career now, you’re still putting yourself in positions where it’s that, the fear, the-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The possibility-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right, taking the risk<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The fear of being laughed off the stage is there.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : But I would posit that your success is because you’ve always been willing to take those chances because you look at a scene like that, and it’s iconic, right? To me, honestly, I could watch that episode over and over again.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I love that.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : That makes me feel good.<\/p>\n

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    Photo by CBS Photo Archive – \u00a9\u00a01968 CBS Photo Archive<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s true. The choices, ’cause you made choices. Your acting style is so unique. How do you know that your acting style for people just love what you do?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No, I don’t know that. What do you mean, it’s unique?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Come on.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Say the words, and that’s it.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : There’s no one else who does it the way you do.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Oh, really?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. So, okay. So, just give me a little bit .<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Oh, thank you. I feel the love.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s so good. It’s inspiring. So I’m just a little bit like on an episode like that, what do you remember? Was it like-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Did you get the script two days before? Did you give notes? Do you remember anything?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Ben.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : That’s like 65 years ago.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Exactly.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : So I got the script two days before, and I put the eye patch on.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No, I have no recollection whatsoever. Are you kidding me? I’m looking at that thinking, “I could do that. I could do that so much better now.”<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Let’s shoot it again.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Let’s do it.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Let’s do it right now. So basically-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But the concept of our variations in our personality.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : The duality.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The duet- well, it’s more than dual. In your case, simplicity. Dual. How about quadruple?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Multi-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Or septillion or octillion.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Octillion parts of one nature.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No, I do think that’s a very deep episode because it gets in that Freudian ID and the ego.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Exactly. You go to the depth as far as you can. And I’m young, and I suppose, slightly queasy about doing this. You know, am I gonna be laughed off the stage for going there?<\/p>\n

    But you’ve gotta go there, otherwise you will be laughed off the stage, unless you have the absolute conviction of what you’re doing. If you’re only halfway they’re gonna, “Uh, I kinda don’t do that.” And-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Commitment<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : It’s commitment. And if you don’t have that commitment, you will be laughed at.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I think that’s the key to anything you do as an actor is you have to commit.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : And comedy too.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Or be committed.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes. Or be committed, exactly. Do you remember the director of that episode? ‘Cause it happened to be Sean Penn’s father, Leo Penn. Do you remember anything about that?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Was it?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No kidding.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No, I have no recollection. I remember Sean.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Sean, yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Vaguely. He looked a lot like his son. Oh, very small and muscular and-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Sean, yeah, Sean looked a lot-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Intense<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Oh, Leo looked like Sean. Oh, interesting. Okay.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : His son looked like his dad.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah, yeah. Okay, I’m gonna jump to another episode. It’s one of my favorites. Arena, He’s a creepy… Do you even know the names of the Star Trek episodes? Just tell me, seriously.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Listen.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Honestly.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Listen. I directed not \u201cStar Trek\u201d so much, but I did a lot of directing.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You directed Final Frontier.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Oh, yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : With me in them. And I can’t stand to watch them. And the torture-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Of watching what we call the dailies like what you shot yesterday, you see today. I can’t stand to see myself when I’m the director. I have to see what I’ve done.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n<\/ins>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : But I can’t stand it. It’s torture. It’s like being in the hotel, I might say. (lol) This hotel. This hotel that I go there.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : So you’re not like, if you’re home in a hotel and you’re channel surfing, Star Trek comes up, are you gonna watch the episode?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No. I can’t stand to-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Seriously?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Not even 60 years later-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :\u00a0 <\/span>No<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :Just out of curiosity?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Not only do I not watch myself, I don’t watch anybody else.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Oh, you don’t wanna watch. You just wanna-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Star Trek-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : So what are you watching?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner\u00a0 <\/span><\/strong>: I don\u2019t, I\u2019m watching documentaries.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I’m watching you and-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay<\/p>\n

    William Shatne<\/strong>r : You being funny. You know I follow your career.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :\u00a0 <\/span>And I find you every so often in some dim corner hotel.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes, that’s where I show up.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Should treat you better.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :\u00a0 <\/span>Thank you. I appreciate that, Bill. Let’s go to a scene from arena and talk about this for a second because this is one of the best fight scenes, I think, ever on television.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yes, of course.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Here’s my first question<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay. So wait a minute. Do you know what regolith is?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :No.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You don’t know what regolith is?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay. That’s the debris from asteroids that have crashed on the moon and turned to dust. So the dust is regolith, and it’s kind of glassy. It’s kind of made of the debris of outer space, and it’s dust, and it clings like flour.<\/p>\n

    And it chokes everything, and it chokes your nose and… But it also can be heated and made into metallic things that can repair spaceships. So the moon is both deadly in its dust and full of, of, um, possibilities of regeneration of things that we’re moving into space with. Well, that was shot in the tectonic line of..<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Vasquez Rocks?<\/p>\n

    William Shatne<\/strong>r : Vasquez Rocks. So Vasquez Rocks doesn’t have regolith, but it has all this shattered glass and rocks, and it’s really awful.<\/p>\n

    And to fall into that, you know, it’s like, “What have I done?” “Why am I here?” “I want to go back to that terrible hotel.” So, so that fight sequence was just so bad. I mean, the guy’s mouth doesn’t move, you understand?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :Well, I noticed that ’cause he gets really close to you, and-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : He doesn’t move<\/p>\n

    \"William<\/p>\n

    \u00a9Photo by CBS Photo Archive – \u00a9\u00a01968 CBS Photo Archive<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I was just, why doesn’t the Gorn want to bite me?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah. You want to look at the Gorn bite.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. And, and did you know, as Captain Kirk, that the Gorn’s ears were so sensitive that if you boxed his ears that would…?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Of course. Captain Kirk knew everything.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Everything.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah, the fight sequence, the guy was in this rubber suit.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : It’s 120 degrees in the desert. And the regolith on the ground. And I’m fighting a guy in a rubber suit, and I have to roll in the regolith.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong>\u00a0 <\/span>: And get all dusty.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. Oh, yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And, and then when you go to brush it off, you get blood.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. So-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I mean, it’s terrible.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : How many days did it take to shoot that sequence?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : About an hour.<\/p>\n

     <\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. I’ll tell you something. I love the Gorn. And yeah that suit was pretty impressive.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The Gorn-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Have you seen the Gorn?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The Gorn became a… The Gorn is an actor.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : A guy in the rubber suit. He says, “Where are you going?”<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Have you seen the Gorn head recently?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Where are you going? Oh, God.<\/p>\n<\/ins>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I told you that I buy Star Trek memorabilia. (He showed the Gorn\u2019s head inside the window display that placed in the center of stage)<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Oh. Are you serious?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : This is my Gorn head.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : By the way, you’re offsetting this off or not?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stille<\/strong>r : That’s the actual Gorn head. I’ve had that-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Is that the Gorn head?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. I’ve had that for about 25 years or something like that.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Good. Is that yours?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yes, I bought it at an auction.<\/p>\n

    William Shatne<\/strong>r : Oh, you bought it?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I’m serious. I bought this. Yes. I have your tunic from that episode.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Wait, how, how much did you pay?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I paid… This was like 20 years ago. I paid… It’s worth a lot more now than probably I paid 20 years ago.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner : Of course. You love it.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. No, because it’s from Star Trek memorabilia. Do you have any of the Star Trek memorabilia?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Nothing. Why can’t I have that Gorn head?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : So you’re basically saying to me you’re not interested in any of… You do want this?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner\u00a0 <\/span><\/strong>: Well.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Okay. Do you… By the way-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : What’s it worth?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : What do you guys think this… What would you guys pay for it? I mean, come on. It’s the Gorn head.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : A million dollars?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It\u2019s not for sale ’cause it’s one of my prized possessions.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Well, unless… Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I thought your children were here.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : My children yeah, these are my Gorn head children. Okay. Anyway, I just wanted to reacquaint you with that guy.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : That’s unbelievable. But that poor guy in that rubber suit in that heat with the regolith.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : But it really is a classic. And you’ve done commercials. I think there was a commercial a few years you did with that.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s become iconic.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And the same guy, who never took the suit off-did the commercial.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Very good. All right. Let’s go to a different vibe now. One of the more, I think, more emotional episodes probably thought of as one of the best Star Trek episodes ever, City On The Edge Of Forever. And let’s take a look at a clip from one of the scenes near the end of the episode, and you can talk about it. Okay?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Okay. All right. There’s a slight pause here. The technology is.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. City On The Edge Of Forever<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : \u2026Technology belongs with the hotel.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. While they’re getting the clip lined up. I want to-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : <\/span>You, you’re running backstage, you know.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : So you don’t indulge in the past at all with these things. But City On The Edge Of Forever, is that something people bring up to you?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, the City On The Edge Of Forever is a really… There are certain Star Trek episodes that are really fabulously written.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : The concept, the guy in the black and white, and the guy in the white and black-to show you the stupidity of racial, racial-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : That’s another, that’s the episode right where-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : They’re the same thing.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : You know? And so the science fiction ideas which are based on truth-<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : By the way, that was so good, ’cause that episode, it blew my mind when I first saw it, that they were so against him because he was black on one side and white on the other.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Right. And the other guy was white, yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah. Honestly, one of the best ways of explaining how ridiculous and stupid racism is.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I think so too… exactly my point. Exactly.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Falling in love with Edith Keeler.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : People love this episode\u2014 I think it’s Kirk sacrificing his own, his own personal love of his life-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : For the greater good, ’cause he knows that that has to happen. When you got an episode like that, and you open up the script and you, and you break it down, what, what are you thinking as an actor?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Well, because we all relate to, “I wish I had turned left instead of right. I wish I had chosen to do that and not chosen to do that,” whatever that choice was. Because we all live with that question, you know?<\/p>\n

    “Why did I, why did I marry that girl?” “And not that one?” “Maybe I’ll marry that one as well.” Uh, it’s just the choices you make in life are done with such accident.<\/p>\n<\/ins>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Whether you think you know what you’re doing, you don’t.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : So you don’t know the exigencies that life will visit. You don’t know what lightning strikes will happen to you as you go through life, so that all your choices are blind. And you think, “That choice I made, if only I hadn’t done it.” And if you live with that, you live with that regret, you alter your joy of your life.<\/p>\n

    You’ve got to live with the choices you made realizing that the choices you made were done with the amount of knowledge you had at that moment. The moment you’ve made a choice to go to the left instead of the right, your life has changed. You now have more knowledge.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : That’s right.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Is, “I made the right choice,” goes, “Oh, God, I wish I had done to the left.” You’re armed with more and different knowledge. So regret is furious.<\/p>\n

    Regret, you can’t regret. You’ve got to relieve yourself of regret and, and realize you made the choice based on the emotional and factual information you had at the time.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Right. McCoy. Leonard McCoy?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yes. He’s in the mission.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Stay right here. Spock! Stay right there. What is it? McCoy, he’s the… Bones, No, Jim.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Liberatus.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Doctor.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I could have saved her. Do you know what you just did?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : He knows, Doctor. He knows.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :Yeah. That’s such a human, relatable moment.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : It’s so good. And the last line of the episode.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : “Let’s get the hell out of here.” With, and then after, when you get beamed up, “Let’s get the hell out of here.”<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> :\u00a0 <\/span>Is that what I said? How do I know those things? I don’t remember.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Do you want to tell me to get a life? By the way, one of the classic Star, SNL episodes ever. That sketch, one of my favorites on SNL.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Really? Really?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : No. But that was, yeah, it’s very relatable. I think we have to kind of stop soon. Is that true? Because I could talk to you for three more hours. But that episode to me also, it’s about the friendship between the three of you, too.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : You know? And I and someday I would love to talk to you about that special relationship that you had with DeForest Kelley and-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : With both those guys<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : ‘Cause it’s just … And you got to direct. I wonder if we could show one last one, if that’s possible.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Thank you.<\/p>\n

    \"William<\/p>\n

    \u00a9Photo by CBS Photo Archive – \u00a9\u00a01968 CBS Photo Archive<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Can we show the last clip? The Wrath of Khan clip? Let’s just show that clip if we could.<\/p>\n

    Because I feel like this is to me, the essence of your relationship with Leonard, and Spock and Kirk, and you know, something that resonates for people on such a deep level. Can we show that one?<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Agreed. Heaven is logical. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Or the one.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I never took a Kobayashi Maru test until now. What do you think my solution is, Spock?<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Yeah.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I have been and always shall be your friend. Live long and prosper.<\/p>\n

    So I know we’re gonna get off. Leonard died. We were in a car with four or five actors in a limo going from one place to the other. And everybody in there was smoking and one by one, I said, “I’m giving up smoking.” One of my children said, “No, no, Daddy, you smell of smoke.” “I’m giving up smoking,” ’cause of my kid. And like I said, “I’m giving up smo-” And the only one who didn’t give up smoking was Leonard. Leonard smoked until it was too late, and he died of emphysema.<\/p>\n

    And although I didn’t see him in the last moments, I’ve gotta think that that scene was something like what must have happened, because you drown. Oh, you drown. You’re taking your last gasp, and you’re totally conscious. You’re taking your last gasp. I was life imitating fiction.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : The friendship that you guys had in real life had to-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : I loved him. He was my brother, yeah<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : And you must have really gone through a lot over the years post Star Trek in terms of experiencing what that was together, too.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : That and everything else. We were very much the same, born four days apart. He in Boston, me in Montreal. The cities are very similar, the histories. And the struggles we had as actors, and the divorces, and the deaths, and the children, and, you know?<\/p>\n

    Even to the point where he was a recovering… He had recovered as an alcoholic. He told me that he began drinking ’cause he was so unhappy in his first marriage. And then his wife said, his new wife, after he divorced and married somebody else, she said, “Well, are you happy now?” And he said, “Yes.” And she said, “Well, why are you still drinking, you hollow log?” And he stopped drinking. And then I fell in love with somebody who had the same problem, and he tried to advise me, and I didn’t take his advice. And we had that between us, too.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : Well, you guys had a… What you put together on screen for the world was so special. Bill, thank you for being you. You’re an incredible-<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : Of course.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> :And I’m grateful to you.<\/p>\n

    William Shatner<\/strong> : And so are you.<\/p>\n

    Ben Stiller<\/strong> : I’m grateful to you. Thank you very much. Thanks, everybody. William Shatner, everybody.<\/p>\n

    If you like the Q&A, share your thoughts below!<\/strong><\/p>\n

    Check out more of Nobuhiro’s articles.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/ins>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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